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Title: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 14, 2010, 11:01:09 PM
I have the 1977 Dodge 440 American Clipper and have been doing a google search for a Service/Maintenance Manual from Dodge for the engine and chassis.  Can ANYONE advise me on this?  Has anyone ordered this manual?  If so, from where?  I'm willing to spend good American Money for one.  ;-)  Really prefer a paper copy, but a DVD version is acceptable (I guess).
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: John Eversoll on October 15, 2010, 12:35:25 AM
Hi Jim, I have one....  You can borrow it to copy !!!  But -- I have to "Find it first"

John   :)
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 15, 2010, 06:38:29 AM
Hi John, I really appreciate that!  Thanks!  Let me know when you find it.  I did find a website and what I believe is the correct book.  Here is the info, let me know if I found the right thing.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1074899&parttype=10335&a=FRc1074899k314674-7513079
1977 DODGE B300 VAN 7.2L 440cid V8 4BBL (D) OHV : Literature : Repair Manual  Wiki Price
HAYNES Part # 30065  Dodge & Plymouth Vans '71-'03
 
$15.03
Add to Cart 
DETROIT IRON Part # 1977DodgeTruck  CD-ROM.1977 Dodge truck shop manual, 1978 supplement
CD-ROM.1977 Dodge truck shop manual, 1978 supplement
 
* Non-stock item--shipping delayed up to 2 business days
$24.79
Add to Cart 
BISHKO Part # 1060 
1977 Dodge Compact Van Factory Shop Manual, Bound, 908 pages
 
* Non-stock item--shipping delayed up to 2 business days
$49.79
Add to Cart 
BISHKO Part # 5165 
1977 CHRYSLER, DODGE, PLYMOUTH Body and Chassis Shop Manual
 
* Non-stock item--shipping delayed up to 2 business days

Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: Horst on October 15, 2010, 06:41:41 PM
when I opened the link - it was fro the 318 - be sure you order the 440.
Haynes are  good manuals. Having a Chiltons is always handy too

this is a great deal for $5.00
http://www.auto-repair-manuals.com/Dodge-Plymouth-1967-1982-Vans-Chiltons-Repair-Tune-Up-Guide.html

Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 17, 2010, 11:32:41 AM
It's funny about that website.  I clicked on someone else's link for the smaller engine, scrolled down and opened up theinformation for the 440 engine and the link did not change.  I went back to check it, opened the home page at first and then went to the Dodge 1977 440 pages and looked at the links and they did not change.. remained the same for the home pages.  Not sure what's going on, must be something programmed into the website, because I tried this on two computers to make sure I didn't have an issue with my browser settings on this computer.  Same thing happened on both.  Anyhow, I ordered the Chilten you recommended and the Haynes as well.  I've noticed with other vehicles, in the past, if you get two motor manuals by two seperate publishers you get everything covered.  Chilton is an excellent manual, but they miss items and Haynes as well.  sigh....  Seems like they would get their act together.  ::) I hesitate to order the DVD version, it's difficult to fit that computer under the vehicle when you want to check something out!!  But I have a feeling they are pretty complete, as far as information and drawings go. 

Thanks for the Chilton Link!!  It's in the mail to me now.   8)
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: John Eversoll on October 18, 2010, 03:43:57 AM
Hi Jim,  if you have a lap top , that will fit under the rig for sure!!!!!!

john
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 18, 2010, 07:31:39 AM
Yeah, I do, but it would make holding that left handed monkey wrench a problem!  :-)
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: retrorob on October 18, 2010, 02:29:24 PM
Don't bother with Haynes or Chilton's manuals. Get a Dodge factory manual. I got mine from EBay. Just type in 1977 dodge van manual. These things are written by the engineers who built your chassis. If anything, they have too much info in them. Real pictures not crappy drawings. Well worth the money!
Rob
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: Horst on October 18, 2010, 05:28:25 PM
here's one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-Dodge-Van-Shop-Manual-Sportsman-Tradesman-Voyager-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem255e467f5cQQitemZ160495468380QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature

$54 bucks though, plus shipping............I'm too cheap.....
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 18, 2010, 11:38:23 PM
I see what you mean.  $54...  plus shipping.  My hard headed problem is that in the past I've successfully rebuilt engines and transmissions using Chilton and/or Haynes manuals with very little problem.  They seem to be written for the "backyard" mechanic using pictures and language that is easy to understand.  I just retired from working at the Naval Air Depot North Island and that place is chock full of engineers who seem to be genetically disposed to write instructions in a language foreign to the normal person.   ;D  However, I will seriously consider buying this book just because I like to cover all bases!  Thanks Horst & Retrorob!!
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: John Eversoll on October 19, 2010, 12:42:55 AM


  Hi Jim, i couldn't help but read the post....  I have a guy that has been rebuilding motors

for almost 40 yrs...  He is very good and charged me $1,800 for a real" good rebuild!!!

He garenteeeeees his work... and will build you anything that you want. Anything from a

stock motor to a 1/4 mile to a nascar type motor ..  I am very pleased with his work

He is here local..  Orange Engine"  here in Anaheim...  Take care, John :)

Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 19, 2010, 05:04:39 PM
John, that is very good information to have.  I have an excellent mechanic down here in Oceanside.  AND he's honest as the day is long.  Actually turned down work when my wife took her car in because it didn't need it and then fixed the problem free... it was one of those simple fixes and to a woman or man who knows nothing about internal combustion it's gotta be a serious problem.  He never ceases to impress me.  But it is always a good thing to have another source in your back pocket, just in case.

Hey!  Did you ever find your book?  Is it a mfr manual or chilton/haynes??

Jim
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: retrorob on October 21, 2010, 03:28:08 PM
 There is a factory manual on Ebay right now for $19.99 plus 6.50 shipping. You could aways get the factory and a chiltons. What info one didnt have the other might.

Rob
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: John Eversoll on October 22, 2010, 03:09:45 AM



         We must Understand One thing!!!!

         The only Dumb question is the ONE YOU DON"T ASK"
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 23, 2010, 10:41:17 PM
Why is there Air?
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: John Eversoll on October 23, 2010, 11:42:47 PM
O M G JIM, You're Killing me!!!!!!!!!    LOL

         John
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on October 24, 2010, 08:50:57 AM
There is Air to blow up tires, air cushions, basketballs, footballs, volleyballs... :-)
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: caninecaravan on October 26, 2010, 09:56:22 PM
There is air to blow up vollyballs with or so says Bill Cosby
Title: Re: Potentially Dumb Question
Post by: USNRetired on November 04, 2010, 10:27:07 PM
You have the same old Bill Cosby Album as me, I see!!   ;D