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Tips & Tricks => Non-Club Member Technical Questions => Topic started by: rvguy101 on May 28, 2017, 08:59:26 PM

Title: ac for house part
Post by: rvguy101 on May 28, 2017, 08:59:26 PM
so what type of ac did the old clipper, have for the house part ?,. i got a old 78, that i will like to ues next month,.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Toedtoes on May 29, 2017, 11:30:14 AM
I'm not sure what your question is?

Are you asking what make and model you have so you can get parts for it?  Are you asking how to operate it?  Are you asking what AC to install?

If you have an AC already, take a photo of the inside controls.  That will let other folks see if it's the one they have and then they can tell you what the make and model is.  I don't know if there were multiple makes of ACs used on the clippers (there were for the furnace and water heater), but there would be different models.

For a new one, you have more versatility.  I believe I posted a link to one that has a thermostat some time ago.  I'll top that post for you if I find it (if not, I'll find the website and link to it here).  If my AC goes out, that is the one I'd replace it with.  With the size of the clipper, these new fancy ACs really aren't necessary, but being able to set a temp rather than having three simple settings (cold, colder, coldest) would be nice.  Most ACs with thermostats have vents - our clippers don't have vents.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: rvguy101 on May 29, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
that is the inside controls,.  the question is, where can i find parts for it at,. & what type of refrigerant it takes,.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Toedtoes on May 29, 2017, 02:33:43 PM
The brand is "Duo-Therm".  If you can find a serial number or model number on it you'll be in great shape.  But if not, you can call around to RV part stores and have them see if there are parts for a 1975-1980 Duo-Therm air conditioning unit (give them the range of years, then narrow down if needed - I suspect it didn't change enough over those years to be an issue).  But, I doubt there will be many parts available - like a compressor, etc. - unless you can find used parts on ebay and such.  And you won't have any guarantee those parts will work (I've had to buy the same part two or three times to get one that actually worked).

If it were just a simple "rebuilding" with replacing old worn out hoses, gaskets, etc., you could most likely take it apart and find or make pieces to work.  It would just take a bit of legwork taking pieces in to auto parts stores, hardware stores, etc., to find something that could do the job.

However, if it's missing its freon, then you would do best to replace it.  It will be near impossible to reseal the old unit to be effective and to stop losing freon.  You don't need ducted and you can install it yourself, so the expense of a new unit with a warranty will end up being a better deal that trying to fix the old one.  And you won't have 40 years of gook coming out in the air - and if it's been sitting for an unknown amount of time not working, there could be a lot of molds and mildews growing inside that will be released with the air flow.

I topped the thread with the replacement AC - it was priced at $200 for the AC unit and the wall thermostat when I posted.  For just the unit without a wall thermostat, it's even cheaper.  And the units are much more efficient nowadays.  Same basic operation and should fit pretty close to the existing hole in the roof (if not perfectly).

Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: rvguy101 on May 29, 2017, 02:59:31 PM
mold & mildew,. i think i got it all,. & thanks for that,. i will check it out,. i try the rv shop down the road from me,. he have stuff from the 70s & 80s,.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Toedtoes on May 29, 2017, 07:54:33 PM
Just looked at prices on the new duo-therm.  The AC unit is on sale for $80.75.  The thermostat is $112.  You could buy the unit for less than it'd cost to repair your old one and skip the thermostat if cost is an issue.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: rvguy101 on May 29, 2017, 09:45:13 PM
i'm going to go with that new type,. parts are a lot for the old one,.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Toedtoes on May 29, 2017, 09:59:17 PM
I think that's a good decision.  At $81, you aren't going to get the old one in comparable condition to the new one.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: rvguy101 on May 30, 2017, 07:45:08 PM
u won't know, what the vent in the floor is for ?,. it off a 78 clipper,. might as well ask, before i forget,.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Toedtoes on May 31, 2017, 07:57:21 AM
My guess is they are heating ducts for the propane furnace. But they didn't have them in 75, so i'm not positive.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Clipper Joe on June 01, 2017, 05:04:39 PM
Yes Indeed That Is The Vent For OEM Heater Ducting.

Joe
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Clipper Joe on June 01, 2017, 05:07:50 PM
Hello,
Is That The Price For Roof Compressor, And Lower In House Unit & Thermostat, Complete.??

Joe
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Clipper Joe on June 01, 2017, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: rvguy101 on May 29, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
that is the inside controls,.  the question is, where can i find parts for it at,. & what type of refrigerant it takes,.

They Would Use R-12, Later Or Newer Units Use Sometimes R134A
These Units Were Made Not To Recharge. Its Cost More To Repair Than To Replace With Better Units.

Joe
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Toedtoes on June 01, 2017, 07:31:11 PM
Quote from: Clipper Joe on June 01, 2017, 05:07:50 PM
Hello,
Is That The Price For Roof Compressor, And Lower In House Unit & Thermostat, Complete.??

Joe

$200 is for both the AC unit and the thermostat.  If you just want the AC unit, it's $80.  The thermostat is $112.
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: Toedtoes on June 01, 2017, 08:24:29 PM
Here's the link to the unit and thermostat:

Ceiling unit 3314850.000 http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-air-conditioners/duo-therm-non-duct-adb.htm   

Thermostat in polar white 3314082.011 http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-air-conditioners/ccc-ii-thermostat-polar-white.htm       

Thermostat in black 3314082.000   http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-air-conditioners/ccc-ii-thermostat-black.htm
Title: Re: ac for house part
Post by: rvguy101 on June 24, 2017, 03:13:43 PM
& it not hard to put in, took all sunday for my,. & joe, the old one ues R-12,. new one is 134a. still got the cap ac, to work on,.